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Cesky Fousek anxious about retrieving in deep water

Postby Just-a-bird-hunter » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:51 pm

Well, I'm hesitant to ask about this, but here goes. My 22 month old Cesky Fousek seems to be anxious and unsure about retrieving in deep water to the point of absolute failure. When sent on a deep water retrieve, he hesitates, and only goes in with great encouragement. How bad is it? Well, he whines, and generally has a fit; one time he jumped up on me and knocked me into the pond, while my hunting partner was laughing so hard, he almost peed himself. He was NAT Prize I, 4 in affinity for water. He always was a "funny" swimmer, one of those dogs swims at an upward angle, until he gets the dummy or duck in his mouth, and then "lines-out" properly. Some of my hunting/training partners have told me, "the water is cold, that's way he is hesitating". Well, while I was wading in chest-high cold water, planting wild rice seed for next year, he was swimming around me, checking out what I was doing. In his other, non-NAVDHA natural ability test, a judge noted he was sensitive and unsure at times. I didn't believe at the time, but now I do. I think it is the doggy equivalent of agoraphobia, a fear of open spaces? The problem is getting worse, not better. So, here is what I am considering: I was going to chain him out, while his older, German Shorthair stable mate, makes retrieve after retrieve (probably no more than 4 or 5) before I send him on a retrieve for a Doken-duck dummy. I though I would really work-up the jealousy factor. He has to get over this, as I'm not giving up duck hunting.
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Re: Cesky Fousek anxious about retrieving in deep water

Postby AverageGuy » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:59 am

Given your post says it is getting worse vs better and hunting seasons are winding down, I would wait until you have warm water at this point. You have all summer to build your dog's confidence in water before the next hunting season. I would use wing clipped pigeons and then ducks to engage the dog's full prey drive. Nothing gets a dog in the water and swimming better than a live bird tossed in the open water a short distance from shore while the dog is watching.
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Re: Cesky Fousek anxious about retrieving in deep water

Postby Dmog » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:11 am

I would be curious to hear if he has ever done a duck chase and how he did? Render the duck flightless and toss it out and see if the dog goes after and starts chasing. Like AG said, I would get the prey drive involved in it if I could. My PP was doing that upright swimming thing just as you described until she did a duck chase and she learned to swim more efficiently chasing that duck. That fixed it for her.
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Re: Cesky Fousek anxious about retrieving in deep water

Postby Just-a-bird-hunter » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:22 pm

Well, I knocked down plenty of ducks but the only ones he retrieved were stone dead! I am working on getting a live duck, pulling some primary feathers (ala track of the duck, Intermediate Test, CF club of North America, NAVDHA (UPT, UT) and release the duck where he CAN SEE it, let him chase, prey drive et al)
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Re: Cesky Fousek anxious about retrieving in deep water

Postby Just-a-bird-hunter » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:59 pm

Well, I bought 4 Rouen ducks, let him do the duck chase , as well as watching his stable mate do the duck do the duck chase and it did help! He was swimming better, lining out properly and generally doing better though he still hesitated on a deep water retrieve of the expired ducks. I little rest and then some more!
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Re: Cesky Fousek anxious about retrieving in deep water

Postby Drahthaar1108 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:00 pm

I like what AG said , the only thing I would add is gun fire , shoot on the water close to the duck but don't kill it, gun fire really turns my dogs on. Forrest
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Re: Cesky Fousek anxious about retrieving in deep water

Postby Just-a-bird-hunter » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:42 pm

Well, I added the gunfire too. All the ducks were expired by the time the exercise was over. He was still hesitating a bit on the dead floating duck retrieve, but swimming much better.
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