Hips

[Densa44]

I only go the 3 generations on the posted pedigree.

[Calvinator]

3 generations is fairly meaningless.

[Densa44]

It may be meaningless to you but the bible talks about it, and all the published geneticists.

[hicntry]

I can go back 14 generations. Of course they are all the same males. Seems I recall that science tried to lay the blame on tight breeding. Well that didn't work and now they are getting to the real cause.....the environment. So simple really.

[Doc E]

now they are getting to the real cause.....the environment. So simple really.

Quite likely true.
If CHD was genetic, why aren't BOTH hips affected ?
The majority of the time, CHD is unilateral.

But there must be some kind of genetic component.....
Breeding Excellent x Excellent = 3.5% rate of dysplasia whereas
breeding Dysplastic x Dysplastic - 25% chance of dysplasia.

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[hicntry]

Doc don't know how accurate the numbers are really. A very small number of labs are tested considering all the labs out there. Secondly, If people suspect their dog is having trouble getting up, they are much more likely to have the dog tested as compared to those that see no sign of HD.

[JONOV]

now they are getting to the real cause.....the environment. So simple really.

Quite likely true.
If CHD was genetic, why aren't BOTH hips affected ?
The majority of the time, CHD is unilateral.

But there must be some kind of genetic component.....
Breeding Excellent x Excellent = 3.5% rate of dysplasia whereas
breeding Dysplastic x Dysplastic - 25% chance of dysplasia.

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Does anyone know what in the environment causes displasia? Nutrition? How the dog is exercised?

[STait]

This is how I test my dog's hips;

[Doc E]

Does anyone know what in the environment causes displasia? Nutrition? How the dog is exercised?

Nutrition, slippery floors, some forms of exercise and who knows what else, but with proper nutrition, some of the other environmental factors can be lessened.

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[orhunter]

STait.... Works for me too.... My dog's Penn-Hip scores were 49 and 51 or there abouts. I wouldn't breed those numbers so she was just a huntin' dog. Fun watching her run up to a barb wire fence and just sail over not losing a step. She never went around anything she could jump over....

[Doc E]

Doc don't know how accurate the numbers are really.

1. A very small number of labs are tested considering all the labs out there.

2. Secondly, If people suspect their dog is having trouble getting up, they are much more likely to have the dog tested as compared to those that see no sign of HD.

1. And that's the reason we don't see a reduction of various genetic or genetically influenced diseases.
2. Good breeders test all of their dogs, whether they are showing symptoms or not.

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[hicntry]

"2. Good breeders test all of their dogs, whether they are showing symptoms or not."


Ahhhh. Good to know. LOL