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Re: Meet Tess

Postby AverageGuy » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:03 pm

Plugging away at our steadiness training. Got a couple of corrections on birds 1-4 this morning. This is birds 5-6. Lots of work still ahead but we are making progress.

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Re: Meet Tess

Postby orhunter » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:54 am

Dang! She’s looking sharp.
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Re: Meet Tess

Postby AverageGuy » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:30 pm

This morning. Been out of town hunting turkeys and had not worked her for 6 days so it speaks well for her understanding the fundamentals I think. Perfect training bird flying right at her and just over her head.

We have ditched the check cord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4EX_CXqNl0

Next step is adding a blank pistol which will be a big step up for her because she is very programmed that a shot means a retrieve. Will introduce that using thrown pigeons at a distance vs a pointed bird to make it easier on her, and use a check cord so I am not completely relying on the ecollar to stop her when she undoubtably moves.

Following the Perfection Kennel system.
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Re: Meet Tess

Postby J D Patrick » Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:14 am

Tess looking good AG!
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Re: Meet Tess

Postby jlw034 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:39 am

1) You're a solid trainer AG. Both planning and execution.

2) You have a beautiful training area.
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Re: Meet Tess

Postby AverageGuy » Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:47 am

Thank You, Joe.

We have added the 209 pistol and moved to tip up cages vs launchers, which makes the bird a lot slower getting off the ground and more tempting for the dog to break. This morning was our 3rd day. She never moved on these two this morning. Making progress.


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Re: Meet Tess

Postby Willie T » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:03 pm

Beautiful AG. Tess is really maturing nicely. Training appears to be progressing pretty smoothly. I love to watch a steady dog stand and just turn its head as it watches a bird fly. That will sure help brace work fall into place with Spud next fall. I am predicting honoring on the retrieve will require a lot of focus on the part of the handler. She is going to be nice AG!
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Re: Meet Tess

Postby AverageGuy » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:50 am

Thank You, Sir. Lots of work still ahead but we will be on it daily.
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Re: Meet Tess

Postby AverageGuy » Wed May 05, 2021 2:53 pm

Have not wanted to be running dogs and shooting on the farm during the turkey season so shifted from our Steadiness training to Trained Retrieve.

She knows Hold and is opening her mouth and reaching slightly for the object when I command Fetch now. Going pretty well. Lots more to do ahead.

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Re: Meet Tess

Postby AverageGuy » Sun May 16, 2021 1:27 pm

Making Progress. Wife on the front porch filming is a distraction to train through.

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Re: Meet Tess

Postby RowdyGSP » Tue May 18, 2021 7:25 am

Tess looks great and is having fun retrieving. You can definitely tell she loves her job... and her momma apparently too :lol:
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Re: Meet Tess

Postby orhunter » Tue May 18, 2021 7:53 am

Yea, I think mom has been sneaking her treats when Kent isn’t looking. Shows all the signs.
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Re: Meet Tess

Postby AverageGuy » Tue May 18, 2021 11:15 am

RowdyGSP wrote:Tess looks great and is having fun retrieving. You can definitely tell she loves her job... and her momma apparently too :lol:


Yep she likes the Wife best. Her Litter was raised by a Woman and her two small/young children and that imprinting stuck for sure. I had just taken her out of the kennel and gone to the front yard to do that training. She had not yet greeted the Wife and obviously wanted to. She is a fun pup.
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Re: Meet Tess

Postby Highlander » Thu May 20, 2021 8:48 am

Excellent.
Did you have to force fetch her to get this level?
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Re: Meet Tess

Postby AverageGuy » Fri May 21, 2021 11:02 am

Highlander wrote:Excellent.
Did you have to force fetch her to get this level?


I have brought her along using what I and others called a Trained Retrieve. I develop play retrieve from a baby starting in a hallway. Zip tie wings to a bumper to introduce carrying feathers.

I trained Hold on a table. Use training treats to reward the desired behavior. Then got her moving up and down the table while carrying the bumper, praising her. Then I overlaid the ecollar using low levels of continuous stimulation that the pup barely feels. If she drops the bumper I stimulate immediately and say Hold. Once she was Holding well with no drops we moved to Fetch requiring her to reach for the object.

Command Fetch and stimulate at the same time, stop the stimulation the moment the pup's mouth is on the bumper. I am teaching the pup that swift compliance with the Fetch command getting the bumper in it's mouth is what turns off the stimulation. I use a low 2 on a Garmin 550 with the pup and the prior one as well. They feel it but are not frightened by it at all. Later on once the pup understands it well, I can use a higher level if/when it decides it does not wish to Fetch when told to do so. Which furthers the pup's understanding that Fetch is a command not an option. Pup is learning to handle pressure and how it's own decisions/actions can turn it off.

Progress to getting the pup moving up and down the table eagerly getting the bumper on the command Fetch and Holding it until told to Give. I continue using treats for correct behavior and withhold them when errors are made. Ecollar is used for corrections.

Then we go to the ground. Walk at Heel while the pup is carrying the object as commanded by Hold. If the pup drops it, I stimulate with ecollar immediately, say Fetch, let off when the pup gets the bumper back in its mouth. I say Hold periodically as we walk at heel while she continues carrying the bumper.

Then we move to asking the pup to move and pickup the bumper off the ground on the fetch command. Stretch it out as seen in this video.

Have continued this week using a dolken pheasant which is harder to grip and throwing into cover. Drops are corrected, good runs are profusely praised and rewarded with treats. Adding more formal crisp standards as to how tight she circles and sits in beside me when I say Heel and Sit, now. Will move to birds soon, then water, FTP ...

So a form of Force Fetch but not the classic progression which includes an ear pinch before moving to an ecollar.

It largely follows the program laid out in the Perfect Retrieve DVD but I use treat rewards they do not.

Second GWP I have brought along this way and it is going well I think. I used the more traditional approach on several prior dogs and got good results as well. I prefer this approach now.
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