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Misskiwi67 wrote:How do you lab folks feel about silver labs??? Same breed, should they be recognized?? Darn tooting you don't care about the lab mutts down the street, but including silvers in your registry? If someone breeds a national champ to a silver to produce talented silvers, is it something you support?
JONOV wrote:
But there is never any debate as to whether or not they are "true labs."
AverageGuy wrote:I think the point made and worth repeating, is if you do not like the dogs someone else is breeding then do not buy one or incorporate them into your breeding program. Both are easily done.
AverageGuy wrote:I think the point made and worth repeating, is if you do not like the dogs someone else is breeding then do not buy one or incorporate them into your breeding program. Both are easily done.
Good point. Its part of the reason i didn't want a lab.Misskiwi67 wrote:AverageGuy wrote:I think the point made and worth repeating, is if you do not like the dogs someone else is breeding then do not buy one or incorporate them into your breeding program. Both are easily done.
Absolutely true. I personally prefer VDD because of the consistency. There are plenty of good GWP breeders, and Averageguy has the dog to prove it. There are also plenty of poor breeders, and separating the chaff is more effort than I wanted.
AverageGuy wrote:I just like to be clear as the practice is often defended with a fallacious argument of protecting the DD breed. It has nothing to do with protecting the quality of the DDs within the VDD as any use of them to breed GWPs are never allowed back into the DD registry. It is simply a desire to not share the genetics. Which is the right of the DD breeders, but it has no effect good or bad on DDs and only serves to deny the selective use of DDs in breeding GWPs.
3drahthaars wrote:AverageGuy wrote:I just like to be clear as the practice is often defended with a fallacious argument of protecting the DD breed. It has nothing to do with protecting the quality of the DDs within the VDD as any use of them to breed GWPs are never allowed back into the DD registry. It is simply a desire to not share the genetics. Which is the right of the DD breeders, but it has no effect good or bad on DDs and only serves to deny the selective use of DDs in breeding GWPs.
Needed to be bumped, because there are two reasons for everything:
1) the "good" reason, and
2) the "real" reason!
The breed club or organization doesn't guarantee who is or isn't a good breeder.
Being a breeder in a great club means very little if one breeds promiscuously, indiscriminately, and to the minimum of the standard.
I'll leave it at that.
3ds
randomnut wrote:Ryanr, I'm sorry for getting slightly OT here, but do you think your dog's improvement came from neutering, or just growing up?
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