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Misskiwi67 wrote:mastercaster wrote:orhunter wrote:I clicked on Heartworm and it shows Oregon has it but I asked the local Vet. If he’s ever seen a case and he said, no. I get the feeling a lot of cases of the various diseases are picked up in other locations than where medical attention is administered. That kind of gives a false indication of where infections exist?
I believe in prevention. 1 in 100 will get acute renal failure that’s expensive and deadly. It really sucks when that dog skipped antibiotics and is dead 9 months later. Maybe only once in a lifetime experience for me (statistically rare) but once is enough.
orhunter wrote:I treated for heart worm with Ivermectin regularly but I wasn’t going to pay the big bucks at the Vet office. It was my general parasite preventive, covers a lot of stuff. Someone told me it was good for ticks up to two weeks after a dose. Dunno if it’s true?
Misskiwi67 wrote:orhunter wrote:I treated for heart worm with Ivermectin regularly but I wasn’t going to pay the big bucks at the Vet office. It was my general parasite preventive, covers a lot of stuff. Someone told me it was good for ticks up to two weeks after a dose. Dunno if it’s true?
Unfortunately, not true. Ticks are particularly difficult to kill and to my knowledge ivermectin has no efficacy.
Edit: there’s some efficacy, but 35% isn’t anything to consider worthwhile. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2 ... tick%20dog
flitecontrol wrote:Misskiwi67 wrote:orhunter wrote:I treated for heart worm with Ivermectin regularly but I wasn’t going to pay the big bucks at the Vet office. It was my general parasite preventive, covers a lot of stuff. Someone told me it was good for ticks up to two weeks after a dose. Dunno if it’s true?
Unfortunately, not true. Ticks are particularly difficult to kill and to my knowledge ivermectin has no efficacy.
Edit: there’s some efficacy, but 35% isn’t anything to consider worthwhile. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2 ... tick%20dog
I think it is probably more true than not. I'm assuming that study was done with Ivermectin levels (.6ug/kg in the study) found in typical canine heartworm preventative medications. Those levels are used to ensure that the commercial product is safe for all breeds. Collie related breeds can be poisoned by relatively low levels of Ivermectin due to a genetic defect, while all other breeds tolerate much higher levels. Many dog owners orally administer .1 ml of 1% liquid Ivermectin per ten pounds of body weight to their dogs on a monthly basis. If my math is correct, this would be equivalent to about 222ug/kg, or over 370 times as much Ivermectin as used in the study. If .6ug/kg provides 35% control, how much would 370 times as much provide?
Misskiwi67 wrote:
Tough to say without a study. I do know other avermectins have limited tick control. They work for the wimpy species but not the tougher species- which also happen to be the Lyme carrying species.
Misskiwi67 wrote:As to cutting chews - medications can “settle “ while the chew dries... so it may not be mixed evenly.
YES!! To Lyme vaccines!! I see very good success with Lyme vaccine, and since switching to the new lymeCR vaccine 3 years ago have not seen a single vaccine failure.
JONOV wrote:Misskiwi67 wrote:As to cutting chews - medications can “settle “ while the chew dries... so it may not be mixed evenly.
YES!! To Lyme vaccines!! I see very good success with Lyme vaccine, and since switching to the new lymeCR vaccine 3 years ago have not seen a single vaccine failure.
Probably a stupid question...Why would you vaccinate if your dog is on a flea & tick regimen? (Nexguard or Advantix or whatever.)
orhunter wrote:Mastercaster: A tick is said to have to be attached for 36 to 48 hours before Lyme can be transmitted.
orhunter wrote:Mastercaster:
Was there a problem diagnosing Lyme so treatment was withheld? I can't imagine where a case was discovered quickly that treating it would take so long? Kinda strange. Like has been discussed, some Dr's don't know how to treat it because they've never dealt with it. Doxycycline is the first line of treatment and if Dr. used something else (I've hard of it) it may not have been a good choice?
The tick I had on me could have been there for two weeks before it was spotted. I had been feeling odd for over a week.
orhunter wrote:Mastercaster: A tick is said to have to be attached for 36 to 48 hours before Lyme can be transmitted.
orhunter wrote:Mastercaster:
You bring up climate change. This is real and the consequences are far reaching. Our oceans are taking the biggest hit but you can see it affects medicine too. Adjust and adapt, hope for the best, expect the worst......or hide our heads in the sand.
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