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Re: Anal glands leaking

Postby Misskiwi67 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:45 am

Thanks to the AR activists most vet students aren't getting near the surgery training they should. Only 2 schools still have terminal surgery programs, the rest of the schools have only spay/neuter experience prior to graduation. Even attending the top surgery program available, I did not learn to do this surgery in school. Some vets will learn from a mentor on the job, some will not. A botched job is a bad deal, so if your vet doesn't have experience seeking a specialist is a better option. If you miss any gland tissue, and it's not easy to tell the difference between gland and muscle without a laser, your dog is doomed to recurrent anal abscesses. This combined with the risk of incontinence makes a reasonably simple procedure daunting if you haven't had someone experienced show you the proper technique.
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Re: Anal glands leaking

Postby Just-a-bird-hunter » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:53 pm

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Judging by your post I would go out on a twig and say you can put a DVM behind your name: my current Vet was trained at Washington State, early 1990's class and does this surgery all the time. The Vet I quoted as saying it was "a pain in the ass to do, but not a difficult surgery" is no longer with us (died way too young). So, have you performed this procedure? The first dog I had that developed OCD (not obsessive compulsive disorder) had a VERY successful surgery completed by a Vet who had not performed this surgery by practicing on a couple of dogs that where euthanized; could a Vet learn to do the anal gland surgery by this method?
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Re: Anal glands leaking

Postby Misskiwi67 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:40 pm

Yes, I've done the surgery 3 times in 8 years. All have been successful without complications.

Unfortunately the worst part of the surgery is identifying tissue layers through blood. Cadavers don't bleed. The best way to learn is to watch another vet do it. Watching a single procedure should be sufficient.

My previous job would get unadoptable shelter dogs from a small county shelter and use them for terminal surgeries when we had new grads in need of surgery practice. Taking the dogs saved the shelter the cost of disposal.
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Re: Anal glands leaking

Postby Just-a-bird-hunter » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:09 am

Where did you attend Veterinary School. I ask this as I am curious about Eastern Vet schools and why my relatives in ILL. were told, "we don't do anal gland surgery". This was a small farming town (Pontiac) and not a suburb of Chicago. Almost all the vets here in Southern Idaho will do an anal gland surgery.
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Re: Anal glands leaking

Postby Misskiwi67 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:34 pm

I went to Iowa State. Terminal surgery rotation was required unless you had ethical objections (4 students of 107), and there was an optional second semester that probably half of us took.

Some new vets graduate having done a couple spays.
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Re: Anal glands leaking

Postby JONOV » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:59 pm

Just-a-bird-hunter wrote:Where did you attend Veterinary School. I ask this as I am curious about Eastern Vet schools and why my relatives in ILL. were told, "we don't do anal gland surgery". This was a small farming town (Pontiac) and not a suburb of Chicago. Almost all the vets here in Southern Idaho will do an anal gland surgery.


Maybe they need to get a second opinion. It could be that no one at their practice does it or knows how, and they see it as non essential.
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Re: Anal glands leaking

Postby Just-a-bird-hunter » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:24 am

Jonov, MissKiwi, et al,

Now it is starting to make sense why my relatives in Illinois can't seem to find a Vet that will do anal gland surgery: as MissKiwi DVM stated, the are not trained in surgery rotations. Here in Southern Idaho, it is not hard at all to find a Veterinarian that knows how to do this surgery at all. In my dog club, there are lot's of owners with different breeds that have had the anal gland surgery, and no-one has had a problem with incontinence, or any other complications. One thing I was always told", "Only little dogs have anal gland problems". HA! All these posts prove larger workingdogs have the same problem. All these posts make me appreciate our southern Idaho Veterinary community even more!

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