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Greman Short hair breeders

Postby Carino » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:05 am

HI all... I'm in the process of looking for gsp breeder. There are so many bredeers online that have websites that it makes it hard to decide who to pick. Looking for a reputable breaader.

Does anyone have any knowledge of Gary Hutchinson of Westwind German Shorthair pointers?

I am looking for gsp pup bred for the average foot hunter, easier training, non field trial bloodlines
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Re: Greman Short hair breeders

Postby JONOV » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:17 pm

You got some good replies on your last thread. Have you talked to any of those breeders? Presumably any of them breeding for primarily roughed grouse hunters will be a good start.

I have a problem with the term "reputable." Objectively, you should be able to ask around, check health clearances, etc, but that doesn't mean the breeder isn't going to make decisions that are contrary to your goals, or best only for his ego or pocketbook. I can think of a couple of highly regarded breeders that I would avoid with a 10 ft pole, just because of a few things I've seen come about in their dogs or that i've seen them do.
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Re: Greman Short hair breeders

Postby nobellekennelz » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:49 am

Carino:


Choosing the right breeder and litter is one of the most important decisions you can make-so one should take their time. Look for someone who is reputable, responsible and responsive-as you will be sharing a relationship for a long time to come. There may be many qualities to look for. An ethical breeder has integrity discernment, patience and a deep knowledge and love for the breed. The intelligent breeder studies pedigrees, progeny generations long and hard: only gained over time. It's a process I call PB,(Planned Breeding), and like anything worth doing, it takes a tireless commitment. I cannot emphasize this enough-planned breeding is essential to the desired outcome-healthy dogs with strong solid lineage producing pups that are intense on point, have an even blend of cooperation and desire, calm around the house yet in the field their natural talents shine through. I want a puppy that not only matures into a great hunting dog but equally as important a great family member of the family. A good breeder knows what it takes to produce the kind of dog that will hunt with the best of them, and yet, be just content to lay at your feet.

The Breeder's who have earned a good reputation are themselves a breed apart. They have respect for the breed. They do not need to brag about their accomplishments, their accomplishments speak for themselves. They understand temperament, personality, traits and have the ability to read the underlying meaning of an individual pup's behavior. They have developed their own intuitive senses. Acutely aware of the emotional state of the dog or pup an experienced breeder sees things others cannot. This is an important distinguishing factor. It comes from experience. observations knowing what to look for. Recognizing the nuanced behaviors that form personality happens through a deep communication between animal and breeder. It takes trust, built over time. The quality breeder does not cut corners anywhere. They create the right environment for raising pups. They invest in the very best veterinary care, putting the health of their dog above anything and everything else.

Do the research-it's well worth it. Ask for references, health certifications. Contact the breed organizations in your area., When speaking with breeder's ask questions, for a dedicated breeder should be happy to answer any and all questions you may have. The more questions you ask the more you will learn about him or her. Are they selling you or are they sharing information? What promises are they making? Will they answer any and every question you might have and are happy to do so. The more questions you ask the more insight the breeder will have about you. A breeder should be interviewing you at the same time you are interviewing them. They should be as particular as to where they place their puppies as you should be on selecting a breeding. You should never be made to think you are asking too many questions. Do you feel a rapport? Can the breeder identify the reason(s) for the pairing of the sire and dam as well as being objective into their own breeding programs and not those of other breeders?

Keep this in mind. Just because a pedigree may have some highly recognized kennel names, it does not mean that the person who bred that litter with the breeding pair has knowledge, understanding, and expertise. Names on a pedigree are never enough. Find out what organizations for the breed they belong to.

You can see how it takes more than the pairing of dogs for one to call themselves a breeder. Yet so many do. For one breeder to badmouth another breeder or a litter it is not a sign of integrity.

I also suggest asking the breeder how they determine the right fit between family and pup. Over the years I have developed my own testing and criteria which for me has worked well. The breeder should ask you lots of questions as well. They are doing so to determine insight into the lifestyle and family of the potential puppy buyer. Be careful of the breeder that has no interest in your lifestyle and family as perhaps all they are looking for is a sale-to move out pups. The end result may be a match that is not a match at all. I always say that love is blind. Here is what I mean. When a potential buyer is looking at a litter, it's highly unlikely that in an hour or even two they can determine the personality and characteristics of the pups. Here, rely on the breeder as after all this is why you chose him or her. What one sees within the whelping box or backyard with their littermates may be totally different when they are home within their new environment. Finding out how a breeder socializes the pup is also important. The good breeder spends time observing the pups with their littermates a well as one on one, making notes. I take them out in groups, then one by one, to see how they socialize. I will take the male pups out introducing them all to a tile floor making notes on each. Then I will take them out one by one to see the reaction alone on the tile floor, again making individual notes on each. I am looking for which ones adapt first to the new texture. I will then do the same on grass, observing them in that environment, then onto cement. This may indicate how bold a pup is on the initial experience. I will also take them out as a group paying attention to which ones move out first and how far they will explore. At feeding time, I'll whistle once. This conditions them to future training. We even use their visit to the vet utilizing that experience to make notes, which they are compared to the notes at home. How will the breeder you choose make an assessment of the pups and their personalities? Ask the question. It is critical to making sure the pup and the owner are the right match.

It takes years of commitment to building the knowledge, experience, ​and awareness to be worthy of being called a "Breeder".
I have been dedicated to this breed for more than two -thirds of my lifetime. At times it has been challenging, weekends training, traveling to tests, missing some downtime​ with the family, but it has been incredibly rich and inspiring journey. Well worth all the effort! I have never claimed to have "the best" dogs and neither should any breeder. I am guessing the best dog out there is one that no one ever heard of sitting on someone's front porch hanging out with his human buddy living, I hope a wonderful life.

​For me, the greatest reward has been the countless relationships made along this journey. For you, it should be countless years of love and enjoyment!

We started this journey many years ago out of my love for the outdoors hunting and fishing. Little did I know that my passion for this sport and the breed would stand the time it has!

Finally, ​we do not claim to have "The Best" we simply claim to do our best! There are many fine breeders that are breeding for all the right reasons. Good luck in your search.​
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Re: Greman Short hair breeders

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Re: Greman Short hair breeders

Postby greg jacobs » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:10 pm

Walnut hills. I have a Sam Man pup that I really like 2 or 3 hundred yards out hunting chukar but pulls it in a bunch in heavy cover. I've had him go on point out at 300 plus yards in open country and is still standing the birds when I got there. All instinct.

Wild Rose. Have to contact him. He hasn't updated his website in years.

Sundance. Fred Rice is one of the most knowledgeable gsp guys around

Friedelsheim. Works a little with Fred Rice

Sharp shooter. A Navhda breeder. They push the NA test for their pups. Some of the grouse lines have used some sharpshooter in their lines
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Re: Greman Short hair breeders

Postby TobyTx » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:46 pm

Willowcreek seems to have a lot of sharpshooter and not nearly the waiting list.
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