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VPP Breeders

Postby Runningwild » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:16 pm

I'm looking for a VPP breeder any recommendations? Thanks
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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby 3drahthaars » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:35 pm

Good luck.

VPP-GNA lost momentum several years ago... damn shame, too.

Right now, your best bet is looking to non-JGHV breeders in NAVHDA.

Don't discourage easily...it's a breed worth pursuing, and I'm seriously considering one for my next pup!

Good luck,

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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby Runningwild » Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:59 pm

3drahthaars wrote:Good luck.

VPP-GNA lost momentum several years ago... damn shame, too.

Right now, your best bet is looking to non-JGHV breeders in NAVHDA.

Don't discourage easily...it's a breed worth pursuing, and I'm seriously considering one for my next pup!

Good luck,

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Thanks thats a shame
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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby 3drahthaars » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:18 pm

Runningwild wrote:
3drahthaars wrote:Good luck.

VPP-GNA lost momentum several years ago... damn shame, too.

Right now, your best bet is looking to non-JGHV breeders in NAVHDA.

Don't discourage easily...it's a breed worth pursuing, and I'm seriously considering one for my next pup!

Good luck,

3ds

Thanks thats a shame


You might go to the VPP-GNA website and contact Steve Borin... he may have some contacts to import from Germany.

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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby Misskiwi67 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:27 pm

I saw a nice PP VJP last spring. There's gotta still be some around.
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Arabella vom Hoheren Boden- VJP 74 HZP 181/189 VGP 281 Prize I
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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby JONOV » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:28 am

3drahthaars wrote:Good luck.

VPP-GNA lost momentum several years ago... damn shame, too.

Right now, your best bet is looking to non-JGHV breeders in NAVHDA.

Don't discourage easily...it's a breed worth pursuing, and I'm seriously considering one for my next pup!

Good luck,

3ds

Why is that? What caused the shift towards using NAVHDA as the registry?
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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby orhunter » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:46 am

JONOV: It's a people/breeder thing. There probably weren't enough people/breeders with their act together to keep it viable.
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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby 3drahthaars » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:36 pm

JONOV wrote:
3drahthaars wrote:Good luck.

VPP-GNA lost momentum several years ago... damn shame, too.

Right now, your best bet is looking to non-JGHV breeders in NAVHDA.

Don't discourage easily...it's a breed worth pursuing, and I'm seriously considering one for my next pup!

Good luck,

3ds

Why is that? What caused the shift towards using NAVHDA as the registry?


Personally, I did all that I could to help VPP-USA.

I donated judging time and expenses, had a friend do the same. But, I was discouraged to do so at every turn.

Sometimes I go back and look at the e-mails, and the bile comes back up in my throat.

Let's just say that some of the "other" JGHV breed clubs weren't so enthusiastic about the new kid on the block.

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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby Calvinator » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:33 pm

Steve Boren in Kansas City is the VPP-GNA contact. They just held a VJP test in MO along with a breed show. They brought the VPP president from Germany to judge. I know they imported a qualified stud. Not sure just how many qualified females they actually have and I've been a member since its inception in N. America. I'm also a member of NAPPA.
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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby Polarsmom » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:52 am

There are several breed certified VPP males already in the states!
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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby Densa44 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:27 am

I have a VPP bitch Czarina Von Oberland and as part of the deal with the breeders in Germany we ran her in the only test that they had in Canada. We were told that she had a very good score. That is remarkable because I trained her and had never seen the test before in my life.

To the volunteers who put on the test I congratulate, the work they put in plus their own money was impressive.

One clever member, some time ago commented on a different thread, "that if you breed dogs for a different purpose, you soon will have different dogs" I wish I remembered who said that. Reena is certainly different than any dog I've ever trained. While still a pup she jumped a wt fawn, ran it down and killed it, then tried to retrieve the small deer. She has an extra gear over the North American dogs, and she is a bit taller.

When training her she is not very demonstrative and I'm never sure that I'm getting through to her.

I didn't bring her to the wilds of Alberta to breed VPP dogs but to expand our gene pool. Her pups out of Blitsgent's Bodie (112/204) will be running NA this year.

It could be me, but she is smart but takes longer to train. There is nothing wrong with the dog it is just taking me longer to get on the same page. We are running sight blinds now and she is enjoying the work but she has come into heat again and I have to train her when my friend's dog isn't around.
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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby Calvinator » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:44 pm

Densa44
I'm not sure you've seen enough PP from North America or Europe to say she has an extra gear. She may have an extra gear over your N. American PP. Has Reena ran HZP in addition to VJP? She is only 18 months old now.
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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby Densa44 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:01 pm

No she hasn't and I'm not sure she ever will, this is a big piece of real estate that we share and I think heard at the previous "test" the next one would be in Nova Scotia, for me it may as well be on the moon.

There is another German PP in Penn who is running in the IV this year, I may breed him to Rena, they are not related.
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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby seadog » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:38 pm

no GNA tests closer than Nova Scotia ?
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Re: VPP Breeders

Postby seadog » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:39 pm

no GNA tests closer than Nova Scotia ?
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