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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby flitecontrol » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:23 am

jlw034 wrote:
AverageGuy wrote:Congratulations! Great pic too.


Thanks! I'd be lying if I said it was a perfect day. Bird #1 she creep in on, busted, and chased. Haven't seen her do that since last summer. My mind went blank as I thought my day was over. One of the judges could tell I was losing it, talked me down, and kept my wits about me.


New here, and just found this thread. Great looking dog, and you have done an excellent job of bringing out her potential. Congratulations. Some may disagree, but I am convinced that pen reared, released birds smell a lot like wounded birds. That's why dogs that have had a number of wild birds shot over them, and would never bust a wild bird, will either not point and just pounce or point then break on planted birds.
I've had several really good dogs, but none were perfect. Neither am I, so keep that in mind!
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby booger » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:32 am

flitecontrol wrote:
jlw034 wrote:
AverageGuy wrote:Congratulations! Great pic too.


Thanks! I'd be lying if I said it was a perfect day. Bird #1 she creep in on, busted, and chased. Haven't seen her do that since last summer. My mind went blank as I thought my day was over. One of the judges could tell I was losing it, talked me down, and kept my wits about me.


New here, and just found this thread. Great looking dog, and you have done an excellent job of bringing out her potential. Congratulations. Some may disagree, but I am convinced that pen reared, released birds smell a lot like wounded birds. That's why dogs that have had a number of wild birds shot over them, and would never bust a wild bird, will either not point and just pounce or point then break on planted birds.


Describes my dog to a T. And sometimes those pheasants peck/claw the tail feathers off each other in the pens, so even more like a wounded bird. My dog learned to manage wild birds, but if she can stalk and pounce on it while I'm in the vicinity, she will. When that bird is 2 feet away after she points, she knows she can get it before it can get away. That doesn't mean I let her when training, but I can see why she does it.

This weekend I asked a 30+ year NAVHDA judge about what he does while hunting. He said, he lets the dog hunt and shoots the birds, he's out there to hunt. So steadiness goes right out the window. That says a lot to me, basically 2 sets of rules, one for testing and one for hunting.
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby jlw034 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:00 pm

Been a busy summer, but I've tried to keep the training regimen going. We've left bird work alone for a while, concentrating on marking, handling, and line drills.

Here's a couple from this morning. Still work to be done, but she has progressed nicely from this spring. Her whistle sits are sloppy, and I know it's from handler error.

She also anticipates the 'cast', so I need to pay attention to my body language. Finding it beneficial to record our training, helps me progress as a handler.

Handling from her 'place' https://youtu.be/9aCtmApbvBE

Lining and whistle sits https://youtu.be/O529oIPpbOc
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby booger » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:12 pm

The whistle sits, for me, I don't care how they look as long as the dog turns around to look for me for direction. For hunting that's all I need.

How far is she away from you when she's taking direction?
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby AverageGuy » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:08 pm

Nice Work and Nice Dog. She obviously enjoys working for you.
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby jlw034 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:15 am

booger wrote:The whistle sits, for me, I don't care how they look as long as the dog turns around to look for me for direction. For hunting that's all I need.

How far is she away from you when she's taking direction?


She's being stopped at around 35 yards in this video. I haven't done much handling past that yet, but hopefully this training will transition well to longer distance.
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby orhunter » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:54 am

Can't improve upon what AG said. Fun to watch a happy dog.
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby jlw034 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:58 am

Well the season isn't starting quite how I hoped. Too dang hot in western ND to justify a long drive and only a couple hours of hunting each day.

Instead went to the family land in Eastern ND, and checked trail cams and tried a bit of bird hunting. The geese wouldn't play ball, but the doves were thick. Never done a true dove hunt, and it was a blast. Good practice on our blind etiquette.

Duck opener in a week
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby jlw034 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:41 am

Minnesota doesn't have the best waterfowling in the world, but I try to never miss opening weekend.

Our spot is all public ground. A several hundred yards march through 10 foot high cattails. Saturday morning we had at least 60 birds on the water within 10 of us before shooting time. We worked steadiness all summer, but dozens of teal swimming within feet of Lena was the true test. And she was at a remote place, about 15 yards away from me. Made me proud when she never broke, not even at WW3 that erupted at LST.

The pothole was small enough that anything that fell in the water was an easy mark. But at least half of our Birds sailed into cat tail hell. I handled her as close as I could and then she did her thing. Several 10-minute duck searches to find birds that would have been lost. Over the two days of hunting we only lost one bird. Made me proud.
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby jlw034 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:45 am

Not as many ducks on day 2, but still good dog work.
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby AverageGuy » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:54 pm

Excellent! Your UT training paying off in the field.
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby orhunter » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:29 pm

This is such a great thread, all 13 pages. Thanks for keeping it going.
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby jlw034 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:39 pm

Thanks fellas. She a really fun dog, and really beats the stigma of an aloof/selfish wirehair. All she wants to do is please her handler.
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby jlw034 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:29 am

North Dakota has been *mostly* good to us
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Re: Lena vom Slaney-Vale

Postby jlw034 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:33 am

For early season the birds have been plentiful. Hitting both water and fields, sharing work with a great lab, and getting to hunt with one of my best hunting buds. Not much to complain about...except some seeds that somehow worked their way into her eye, and would not flush out. Vet trip #1 for 2018 is in the books.
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