Please explain "upland" portion of HRC Retrieve Testing.

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Please explain "upland" portion of HRC Retrieve Testing.

Postby NJE » Fri May 25, 2012 8:38 am

I have read about the "started" and "seasoned" HRC retrieve tests to possibly to play a second training game with my pup. I am confused about the "upland" part of the test. I don't want him to only quarter 10-30 yds in front of me nor do I want to encourage him to flush. It seems as though this is part of the tests in addition to the marks/blinds on land/water. Based upon some past posts it sounds like that part is not always tested?
Should I skip this venue or am I just confused by the test descriptions? I don't know a thing about it and I am a testing newbie...just curious.
I see real value for my dog with the marks/blinds/steadiness at the line, but don't want him to encourage him to only quarter 10-30 yds in front of me unless cover dictates this. I don't want to discourage his relatively big run.

Any advise or info? Thanks.
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Re: Please explain "upland" portion of HRC Retrieve Testing.

Postby legallyblonde » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:30 am

It's my understanding that the upland portion is optional, almost never used, and would have to be posted in the hunt premium if it was going to be used (so you could choose not to enter.) It's basically unheard of and not done as there is a separate test and title for upland. I am currently running my young GSP in started. I saw the same thing in the rules and have asked several in HRC about that upland portion and everyone I have talked to has never seen it.
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Re: Please explain "upland" portion of HRC Retrieve Testing.

Postby Doc E » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:00 am

The Upland Hunt is totally separate from the Retriever Hunts. It's a handler's choice to enter Upland or not. There is no Upland portion included in the Retriever Tests, although it is allowed to have a "scent trail" (tracking) in a retriever test, but I have only seen that once (out of hundreds of events).
The rules state that the dog must hunt / quarter on it's own as well as take directions from the handler. The dog must remain within gun range (less than 40 yards).
The rules also state that the dog must make the flush (I've been trying to get this rule changed, but without success so far). But because I sometimes need for my dog to make the flush in real hunting, I don't have a problem with the rule, but I would like it changed.

I would say that Upland was offered in about 50% of the Tests that I've attended.
It takes 4 passes for the Upland Hunter (UH) title.

My pup (Weezle), a Pointing Lab, set a new record this year and passed his first Upland at 8 months of age. He has passed 3 Upland Tests this year, but will have to wait until next year for his 4th one.
My wife's dog (Tucker -- also a Pointing Lab) has over a dozen Upland passes.

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Re: Please explain "upland" portion of HRC Retrieve Testing.

Postby marsh » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:39 pm

Doc-

So do you release the dog from point to flush the bird?
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Re: Please explain "upland" portion of HRC Retrieve Testing.

Postby Doc E » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:13 pm

marsh wrote:Doc-

So do you release the dog from point to flush the bird?


Yes.

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Re: Please explain "upland" portion of HRC Retrieve Testing.

Postby marsh » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:40 pm

Figured, they don't score a point negatively then. That is good, IMO.
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Re: Please explain "upland" portion of HRC Retrieve Testing.

Postby Doc E » Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:41 pm

marsh wrote:Figured, they don't score a point negatively then. That is good, IMO.


A point isn't a mark-down........... But the dog does have to make the flush.

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