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Postby Calvinator » Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:28 pm

Does anyone use wolfhounds to hunt coyotes?? Can anyone refer a certain breeder or line of wolfhounds that may be better than the typical "show" lines? Also interested in info on training a sighthound for this purpose.

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Postby Calvinator » Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:51 pm

The girlfriend wants a wolfhound. She doesn't care if it hunts, but I would like to use it for something. In all honestly, it may be difficult to use one to hunt coyotes in OH. Not enough wide open spaces. I just want to investigate the potential. We will not be getting another dog soon. The Pudelpointer is only 9 months old.
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Postby gohntng » Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:03 pm

Calvinator.
A gentleman in Boise had them, greyhounds and Coyotes.
He also had GSP's, I asked him about hunting coyotes with them also. He didn't have much luck with them in our sagebrush hills.
So he crossed them with greyhounds for a smaller dog than a wolfhound, just for the toughness to kill the coyote.
The greyhounds would knock the coyote down, by the time the coyote would recover, the crosses would be there to end it.
A coyote can manuver real well in brushy terrain, it's when it hits an open spot they are done for.
I guess your girlfriend knows how big they get. I couldn't get over their size while talking to him. One of his males had it's paws on top of his 6 foot enclosure, head over the top sniffing me. His were house dogs also.
Big dogs to say the least. Since then he has graduated down to the whippet's. The reason for that was, the size, and once the wolfhounds killed something that ran, he had to be careful with other running dogs, and even calves.
He had the coyotes, because his dogs killed a mother coyote that had small pups. He adopted the pups and raised them. Wrong time of the year to run dogs in early summer.
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Postby Calvinator » Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:56 pm

We both had rescue Greyhounds before meeting each other. She would settle for a Greyhound, but I just can't get over the tragic loss of my Greyhound, Vincent. She wants a big dog. She doesn't like the look of mastiff types and prefers the sleek build of sighthounds. Having owner GWP and now a PP, I prefer bearded types. We have looked at Deerhounds, but prefer the heavier build of the Wolfhound.

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Irish Wolfhounds

Postby blathens » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:52 pm

Calvinator, I had wolfhounds in the late 60's and early 70's. At that time most all breeders were show breeders. Today some breeders are entering into the sport of "coursing" which I think is the step in the right direction. The show people seemed to prefer the bigger blockier hounds that weren't, in my opinion, built for their intended job. The old pictures of wolfhounds were much racier, more like Scottish Deerhound conformation, just bigger. I went to a Wolfhound specialty show in Kansas back then and met some guys up from Texas looking for breeding stock to cross their greyhounds to for running coyotes. They said the greyhounds could catch the coyotes easy enough but didn't have enough fight in them to dipatch them.
Greyhounds are big dogs but are not even close in size and weight of the IW. My male was 34 inches at the shoulder, weighed 175 pounds and could reach 7 feet with his front legs on my shoulders. When I saw my first one in person I could hardly believe my eyes. They are awesome dogs. However, as with all giant size dogs their life spans are short. Something usually gets them before they are 10 years old. Mine died of cancer of the spleen at 91/2. He was active and strong almost to the end though.
I wouldn't mine another someday myself if you could use them on coyotes. Maybe you could take your PP bitch out when she is in heat and stake her out to lure male coyotes in, then just release the wolfhound just BEFORE he mounts her:).....or EATS her:(.

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Postby orhunter » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:19 pm

Bill, you're a hoot.......
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Wolfhound...

Postby joey198914 » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:09 pm

How you ever thaught of a poodle, there as big as wolfhounds ! and, i think there more intelligent

Wolfhounds and massifs arent the only ones that are big you know... :wink: :D
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poodles and wolfhounds

Postby blathens » Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:12 pm

Joey, have you ever seen an Irish Wolfhound? They are 3 times the size of a standard poodle. Do some homework.

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Standard poodle VS. Wolfhound

Postby joey198914 » Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:43 pm

OOps haha, emmmmmmmmm oopsy lol yap, emmmmm i did a little research and emmmm yeah oops they are much bigger lol

BUT, poodles are still big dogs. And as an opinion I think they are more of a companion thene a wolfhound. Why ? Well, its simply my opinion, Wolfhounds are really lovely but I like better the poodle, because they dont loose there hair, ............

Heres some pics of my dog :

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Him as a pup, lol, not even 1 month old. (His name : Tao, french name)

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And here are my 2 other dogs :

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wolfhounds?

Postby drfatguy » Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:35 am

A wolfhound can't catch a coyote. I have lure chased a bit (I can't call it coursing because the dog isn't controlling the race, just following). I have also done some open field coursing. I haven't ever seen a an IW which double suspension galloped. I had pointers which were faster than any wolfhound I have ever seen. I haven't seen an IW I felt could catch a fox or coyote. The true Irish went extinct and the breed we call an IW is an artificial breed. Coursing hounds evolved to perform a task. A captain in the british military bred the IW to recreate the breed. Find a staghound some old coyote hunter has and you will like the dog and it can actually catch something.

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Postby blathens » Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:52 am

Dr Fatguy, with the build on todays wolfhound you are probably right for most dogs. The original wolfhound was much racier than the lumbering IW's that win in AKC shows today. If there was a purpose for the IW other than shows, however, maybe there will be some that breed for proper conformation.
I don't quite understand the term "artifcial" in your description of the todays wolfhound, however. All breeds are "artificial."

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Postby DrahtsundBraats » Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:58 am

Fatguy,
You are absolutely right-I suspect that the Scottish Deerhound could still be a coursing dog and I have met a few that certainly have the kill instinct intact.
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Artificial

Postby drfatguy » Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:27 am

Blathens,
All breeds are artificial but sighthounds are the closest to the original. What I mean by the IW being artificial is the breed was cobbled together by some Captain in the British Army to look like the ancient breed. Performance wasn't an issue. This means an IW wasn't judged for ability only what it looked like (re: show dog). The rest of the coursing breeds were bred for speed first then looks.

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Re: Wolfhounds

Postby Idaho Steve » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:56 am

Calvinator wrote:Does anyone use wolfhounds to hunt coyotes?? Can anyone refer a certain breeder or line of wolfhounds that may be better than the typical "show" lines? Also interested in info on training a sighthound for this purpose.

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Try Larry Bull in Jerome, Idaho @ www.geneticspecialies.com/geneticspecialties.html
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Wolfhounds

Postby mrsb73122 » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:15 pm

I had a bad experience with Irish Wolfhounds in St. Louis at the Purina Farms two years ago. They were having a show and our group was having a test. A lot of us were staying in the same hotel. While I was taking my dog out to do his business at the hotel in the morning, a male attacked my 8 month old DK. The IW was being walked with three females by one person. (These are very large dogs. While walking by one of them, his head was even with mine -- I’m 5’4â€
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