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Just Another Day II

Postby hicntry » Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:40 pm

I have spent the last few days with Magnum in the field by himself. After giving this some thought, I am just going to use him as a straight tracking dog. I have used a few other dogs in this capacity before and a lot of hogs can be stacked up it they are around. After watching Magnum in the field he will be a perfect candidate for this as he stays relatively close, with in a 100 yards most of the time, and works the area in front so I don't walk into something. As soon as we catch the hogs moving through and I shoot a couple so he knows this is what we are looking for, he should start barking to alert me automatically. The big draw back to this is you can't cover the ground as I have to be on foot. The last dog I used like this had a heck of a lot of hogs chalked up and he never did bark. He had a bad experience at about 1 year old and never cared for hogs much after that. He did know that was what we were looking for and walked me to truck load of them using this method but he worked really close. Being silent he didn't spook the hogs but, since he didn't like them, I was usually within 10 to 20 yards when he would come to a dead stop and just stare into the brush. The big question with Magnum is, once he knows the game, will he still work as close or will he start running the track and leave me way behind. Time will tell.
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Re: Just Another Day II

Postby Kyle » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:03 am

hicntry wrote:I have spent the last few days with Magnum in the field by himself. After giving this some thought, I am just going to use him as a straight tracking dog. I have used a few other dogs in this capacity before and a lot of hogs can be stacked up it they are around. After watching Magnum in the field he will be a perfect candidate for this as he stays relatively close, with in a 100 yards most of the time, and works the area in front so I don't walk into something. As soon as we catch the hogs moving through and I shoot a couple so he knows this is what we are looking for, he should start barking to alert me automatically. The big draw back to this is you can't cover the ground as I have to be on foot. The last dog I used like this had a heck of a lot of hogs chalked up and he never did bark. He had a bad experience at about 1 year old and never cared for hogs much after that. He did know that was what we were looking for and walked me to truck load of them using this method but he worked really close. Being silent he didn't spook the hogs but, since he didn't like them, I was usually within 10 to 20 yards when he would come to a dead stop and just stare into the brush. The big question with Magnum is, once he knows the game, will he still work as close or will he start running the track and leave me way behind. Time will tell.


I am curious why you don't run Magnum with one of your finished hog dogs. That should build his confidence. One bad experience does not ruin a big game dog. I would run him with a dog that will take care of business if he were mine.
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Re: Just Another Day II

Postby DrahtsundBraats » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:39 pm

The last dog I used like this had a heck of a lot of hogs chalked up and he never did bark. He had a bad experience at about 1 year old and never cared for hogs much after that. He did know that was what we were looking for and walked me to truck load of them using this method but he worked really close. Being silent he didn't spook the hogs but, since he didn't like them, I was usually within 10 to 20 yards when he would come to a dead stop and just stare into the brush. The big question with Magnum is, once he knows the game, will he still work as close or will he start running the track and leave me way behind. Time will tell.


I thought they all had so much grit??...but the "hams and backstraps" will be intact!!! :lol: :lol: Now you want them to "point" the hogs?? I'd breed in one of those worthless gritless bayers...oh, forgot that won't, work...have to be silent...a timid setter might work....new breed the "Dalesett".....points hogs...with a high tail of course. No!!!...even better...the Patterdale and the Setterdale....they point hogs....sounds like a marketing angle to me.
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Re: Just Another Day II

Postby hicntry » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:07 pm

:lol: :lol: And I am still the only one with hundreds of pictures with dogs. You got zip but hot air and dogs that won't track with put the handler and obedience tracking. And you two expect people to believe you can work dogs like that the same as I do. :lol: :lol:

Kyle, these are not hounds, the older dogs will get them killed faster than they can do it on their own.....like BlackJack did because what I wrote is not what happened about that.
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Re: Just Another Day II

Postby Kyle » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:09 pm

hicntry wrote::
Kyle, these are not hounds, the older dogs will get them killed faster than they can do it on their own.....like BlackJack did because what I wrote is not what happened about that.


So what really happened? Are you saying that every Airedale has to be started by itself? If that is the case I am curious why you don't start your Airedales on a crabby tusk less sow in a bay pen? It just seems that getting their ribs thumped a few times in a safe environment would help them learn to be careful just like it does for the hounds.
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Re: Just Another Day II

Postby DrahtsundBraats » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:53 pm

So what really happened? Are you saying that every Airedale has to be started by itself? If that is the case I am curious why you don't start your Airedales on a crabby tusk less sow in a bay pen? It just seems that getting their ribs thumped a few times in a safe environment would help them learn to be careful just like it does for the hounds.


Naw...if you did that then you couldn't brag how your brave young dog took on the front end of a boar and perished....part of the mystique.
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Re: Just Another Day II

Postby hicntry » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:21 pm

DrahtsundBraats wrote:
So what really happened? Are you saying that every Airedale has to be started by itself? If that is the case I am curious why you don't start your Airedales on a crabby tusk less sow in a bay pen? It just seems that getting their ribs thumped a few times in a safe environment would help them learn to be careful just like it does for the hounds.


Naw...if you did that then you couldn't brag how your brave young dog took on the front end of a boar and perished....part of the mystique.


Another one of your "intelligent" posts, Jon?
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Re: Just Another Day II

Postby Kyle » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:25 pm

hicntry wrote::
Kyle, these are not hounds, the older dogs will get them killed faster than they can do it on their own.....like BlackJack did because what I wrote is not what happened about that.


So what really happened? Are you saying that every Airedale has to be started by itself? If that is the case I am curious why you don't start your Airedales on a crabby tusk less sow in a bay pen? It just seems that getting their ribs thumped a few times in a safe environment would help them learn to be careful just like it does for the hounds.
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