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Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby runningdogs » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:22 pm

Hi,
I have learned so much about the positive attributes of the wpg, but I am trying to get to the bottom of how much grifs shed before I continue to pursue. I know this question has been asked a million times but it seems there are are a million different answers.
If you just read about them on the dog breed sites, you'd think there wasn't a single grif ever who shed at all. But then if you talk to the breeders, you (well I) am told that they actually shed a pretty fair amount. And the one I met so far didn't seem to shed at all when I petted and ran my hand through his fur but that was ages before I was ready for my next dog. Soooo.... I know that each line varies. And that all dogs shed to some degree. So lets compare them to a poodle who, from what I have seen, shed virtually no hair.
If you own, or know a griff:
1) Are you or your family super picky about dog hair and does the grif's shedding bother you/them? (Not worried about debris, just the hair).
2) Does it shed a noticeable amount, ie, so much that you find hair on your floor after vaccuuming? Hours later? Days later? Weeks later?
3) If he/she crawls up onto your microfiber couch do you find fur where it just sat or if you cuddle them up for a good loving in your lap will your black fleece jacket be covered in hair?
4) Cloth car seats get covered in hair after one or two rides?
5) If you brush them weekly does that help or does it matter?
6) Is there anything that does help if they do shed more than the breed guides let on?
7) If yours really and truly barely barely sheds, who is the breeder???
9) If yours sheds tons and tons, who is the breeder???

The better half will be grateful for all of your replies!
(also if you think this has a better chance of getting answers somewhere else, please let me know as I am a newbie!)
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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby bhennessy » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:36 pm

My wife and two daughters shed more than my griff.
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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby runningdogs » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:00 pm

bhennessy wrote:My wife and two daughters shed more than my griff.


Who is the breeder? The griff's that is!
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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby bhennessy » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:11 am

PMd you.
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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby runningdogs » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:26 am

bhennessy wrote:PMd you.

Appreciate your reply!
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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby SwitchGrassWPG » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:29 pm

1) Are you or your family super picky about dog hair and does the grif's shedding bother you/them? (Not worried about debris, just the hair).
No. We currently have six in the house with us.

2) Does it shed a noticeable amount, ie, so much that you find hair on your floor after vaccuuming? Hours later? Days later? Weeks later?
Each one sheds a different amount. The ones with harsher coats shed less than ones with less harsh coats.

3) If he/she crawls up onto your microfiber couch do you find fur where it just sat or if you cuddle them up for a good loving in your lap will your black fleece jacket be covered in hair?
Generally no. Depends on when they were combed/brushed last.

4) Cloth car seats get covered in hair after one or two rides?
Depends on when they were combed/brushed last.

5) If you brush them weekly does that help or does it matter?
Yes, it does help and matter. Depending on the coat, a regular stripping is also in order.

6) Is there anything that does help if they do shed more than the breed guides let on?
Stripping, rakes, and in some cases, diet.

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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby runningdogs » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:06 pm

SwitchGrassWPG wrote:1) Are you or your family super picky about dog hair and does the grif's shedding bother you/them? (Not worried about debris, just the hair).
No. We currently have six in the house with us.

2) Does it shed a noticeable amount, ie, so much that you find hair on your floor after vaccuuming? Hours later? Days later? Weeks later?
Each one sheds a different amount. The ones with harsher coats shed less than ones with less harsh coats.

3) If he/she crawls up onto your microfiber couch do you find fur where it just sat or if you cuddle them up for a good loving in your lap will your black fleece jacket be covered in hair?
Generally no. Depends on when they were combed/brushed last.

4) Cloth car seats get covered in hair after one or two rides?
Depends on when they were combed/brushed last.

5) If you brush them weekly does that help or does it matter?
Yes, it does help and matter. Depending on the coat, a regular stripping is also in order.

6) Is there anything that does help if they do shed more than the breed guides let on?
Stripping, rakes, and in some cases, diet.

Jay


Thank you Jay!
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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby erb » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:33 pm

I have little experience since we have our first griff (10 mo old), but can tell you relatively speaking he sheds little to no hair. We do groom him at least once a week, mainly due to since we are already grooming our lab. So by default we do groom him pretty regularly.
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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby jklingenstein » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:50 am

bhennessy wrote:My wife and two daughters shed more than my griff.


:lol:

My Griff sheds a little bit....not much.
They do get mats if you don't comb them regulary.
A MARS Coat King comb works wonders on mats.
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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby aaronk » Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:36 pm

I wouldn't say they don't shed, but I wouldn't call what they do shed a "fair" amount by any means. Mine is almost 11 months old now, from what I've read it takes a while for their coat to fully develop, so we'll see if and how it changes. As of now though, answers below...

runningdogs wrote:1) Are you or your family super picky about dog hair and does the grif's shedding bother you/them? (Not worried about debris, just the hair).
Not super picky, but when looking for breed one that shed "less" was definitely a criteria.

2) Does it shed a noticeable amount, ie, so much that you find hair on your floor after vaccuuming? Hours later? Days later? Weeks later?
In general, no. The only time we really notice hair that is shed is when we move the coffee table or vacuum under the couch, and then it's like how did this hair get here as we don't see it on a day to day basis.

3) If he/she crawls up onto your microfiber couch do you find fur where it just sat or if you cuddle them up for a good loving in your lap will your black fleece jacket be covered in hair?
Have a leather couch, not an issue.

4) Cloth car seats get covered in hair after one or two rides?
In general, no. You can notice a small amount though.

5) If you brush them weekly does that help or does it matter?
It helps, but I've gone more than a week without brushing it's not like we find hair all over the place if we let the brushing slip.

6) Is there anything that does help if they do shed more than the breed guides let on?
Stripping the coat.
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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby runningdogs » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:15 pm

Thanks for everyone's input so far!
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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby Birddogs » Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:46 pm

To hear my wife tell it , this griff should be bald he sheds so
Much .....good thing we weren't together when I had those
3 Brits . The Griph had a crappy coat right from day one ,
Orhunter helped me with that . He clumps , if you brush him
every day it's palatable . I read all the coat stuff mostly
Myth . What I really hate is the Burrs , and southern Alberta
Has the worst I ve ever seen . So I shave him , perfect no burrs ,
This dog is tough as nails , short coat doesn't bother him in the
least . This will be his 6 th year as a short hair .....WPGSH .
He is my tenth pointer ....the birdiest of all .

And he doesn't smell nearly as bad , he still loves a good cow paddy !

Oh ya I left the part out about examining about 40 of these dogs at shows and
In the field . Never found one that had a very different coat . I saw some
Flat coats from Sweden I believe ,they looked cool . I'm not sure breeders are the
Providers of bankable information . Experienced owners are mor reliable .
Unlikely we will have another one ,the main reason , High maintanance.
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Re: Grifs and shedding and breeders

Postby Birddogs » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:01 pm

I have been clipping the Griph for 5 or so years .
I mentioned this on a Griffon FB page and was assured
That I would be sorry and that his coat would never
grow back to its original condition .
Well I have been growing him out since last January
To take some photos and have some artwork done .
He came with a fairly soft coat , and has come back
to his Griffony fineness.
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