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Hunting Versatile dog

Postby drahtman » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:32 pm

Hello Everyone,

I am getting a Drahthaar pup this spring/summer, I hunt everything from birds to deer. I would like to train my pup to hunt upland birds, but also fox and rabbits. Will this create a problem in the field when I am pheasant hunting and he gets scent of a fox will he search that instead?

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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby DrahtsundBraats » Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:14 pm

Just wondering...but how do you intend to hunt fox with the dog?
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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby orhunter » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:27 am

I think you'll find you won't have to train the dog to hunt. They're kinda born with that.

I don't think the dog will break off bird hunting when hair scent is encountered unless the quarry is quite close or the dog gets a visual. With experience, they kinda figure out what's being hunted at any particular moment and will focus on that task.
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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby Misskiwi67 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:31 am

My dog points fur just like she does birds. We either shoot it or move on. She points coon, rabbit and coyote. We have not encountered a fox.
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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby drahtman » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:33 pm

Does hunting fur and pointing birds come naturally? Does anyone have recommendations on how to train to recover wounded game?

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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby Georgia Boy » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:29 am

Congrats on your new pup. If you are interested in training your dog I would suggest joining the VDD and attending some of the tests this spring and fall. There will also be training days and seminars offered for handlers. If you are getting a pup from a good breeder they should be a huge asset in helping you with the training process. Which litter are you getting a pup out of?
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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby drahtman » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:36 am

Georgia Boy,

Thank you for the reply, I was very helpful. I am getting a pup from Vom Jagdkonig.


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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby Penndraht » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:42 pm

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Good luck with the new pup. Getting it from a very good breeder. Not many have the expierance training and testing that Mike has. Good choice!
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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby Steve Anker » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:24 pm

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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby drahtman » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:52 pm

Thank you all for your very helpful reply's!
What is the best age to start training on birds and rabbits? Does anyone have any book recommendations?

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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby Freeze » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:23 pm

Exposure to game (especially if you have access to wild game) ..... IMO .... the earlier the better.
Here is my Jagdkönig pup (W II litter) pointing pigeons at 10.5 weeks old
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As far as books:
I like Joan Bailey's books .... "How to Help Gun Dogs Train Themselves" & "How to Have The Best Trained Gun Dog"
I also like the"Drahthaar Puppy Manual" available from vom Altmoor
and "Training the Versatile Hunting Dog" by Chuck Johnson
and "Training The Sporting Dog" by Don Smith & Erv Jones

I think you will be very happy with your pup, I know I am.
Which litter are you getting a pup from?


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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby drahtman » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:29 pm

How would you go about training to hunt rabbits?

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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby drahtman » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:30 pm

How would you go about training to hunt rabbits?

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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby Freeze » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:57 pm

My preference, and I don't spend much time hunting rabbits, is to have them point rabbits and maintain steadiness to flush and shot.
This is what I do with my GSP and my plan with the DD pup as he gets older and the VJP rabbit track is behind us.

It works well because I can normally tell by her body language when my GSP has pointed something other than a bird.
If I get a shot great; if I don't get a shot, once the rabbit jumps, I can decide to allow her to track (rarely) or I can heel her off and we go back to bird hunting.

If I have a rabbit hit I the track command and she will follow the track and retrieve.


This works for me and my style of hunting .... probably not what other consider correct or efficient, but it works for me.

Good luck with the new pup.


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Re: Hunting Versatile dog

Postby mostek » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:31 pm

Just go our X2 pup. What litter are u getting one from? Mike has a list of books for u to read. Agree with Georgiaboy. Join vdd and get to some test and training days. Where do u live?
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