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Cross Breeding

Postby Anthony K. » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:04 pm

I'm considering a cross breeding. I would like to find a Viszla stud for my red setter female. She is a hunting/field trial dog very well put together all day dog. Need a stud of same caliber.
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby Margaret » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:37 pm

Quick someone, pass the wooden stake, hammer and Holy water!
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby GPBLITZ » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:26 pm

Anthony K. wrote:Need a stud of same caliber.


I think Pluto would be a fine stud to use. :?: Make your reservation early. He does have a busy schedule at Disney world.
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby orhunter » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:48 pm

How long is your pup waiting list? I think Gryph wants on it....
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby DK1 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:26 am

Maybe I missed something, but Anthony, can you tell us WHY, if you are serious, that you are considering doing this?
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby hicntry » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:56 am

I am going to have to follow this one!
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby GSPmom+2 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:53 pm

Hinctry,

I am with ya on this one. This should be Good. :crazyeyes: .
To The guy with the Setter:
My own personal take on this ! To many unwanted dogs in the first place. If the setter so good find another setter as good , for chrisstakes what happens if no one wants a pup ? are you going to keep them all ? SOrry t o burst your bubble, AWWW what to call them VizslaSetter or Vizter ?

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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby Anthony K. » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:09 pm

The thought was to bring in some different blood. Something thats not english pointer, that is ruffly the same color, size. Then back breed back to setter provided the selected pup makes the grade.
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby GPBLITZ » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:53 pm

Anthony K. wrote:The thought was to bring in some different blood. Something thats not english pointer, that is ruffly the same color, size. Then back breed back to setter provided the selected pup makes the grade


And what breed would you register the pups as.
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby DrahtsundBraats » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:22 pm

Sounds perfectly sensible to me!! With a little luck, you'll get a wirehaired Settervizla....or a Vizla with a feathered tail. Have you talked with this guy http://www.wesslpointer.com/ I see some red dogs on his site...and you might pick up some real gains in the water retrieving.
Don't forget the Rhodesian Ridgeback.....big game Setters!!!

Ah....the possibilities!!!!
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby orhunter » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:31 pm

DundB:

This brings up an interesting point....... Would it be reasonable to back breed to a foundation dog? Since the DD is a four in one breed, it seems reasonable if the breed developed into something undesireable no matter what effort the organization made to prevent this. Lets say they all ended up being slick coats and looked like shorthairs or long coat wollybuggers. This is for discussion only.
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby DK1 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:56 pm

Would it be reasonable to back breed to a foundation dog?


It is reasonable in rare instances. And, it must be done with a collective, as a collective (I am hinting as the breed organization) and with support of those who can take each of these pups, put it into the right home and make sure the breeding is hair on line on a straight course. They also must make sure the pups are either spayed/neutered if necessary and then bred back to the right parentage. This can be very labor and time consuming. For one thing, it cannot be the labors of just one guy who up and decided one day that it would be a good idea.

Prime example of this being done is the Deutsch Langhaar.
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby orhunter » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:28 pm

DK1

That's how I look at it..... One person can't reinvent the wheel....in this case...
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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby bbd's » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:37 pm

If you want to bring in new blood do an out cross to a differnet line of setter!!! Can't in anyway see why you would want to cross breed to make a mutt then breed said mutt back to a setter. I've never understood this if you like setters stay with it... If you want a vizsla get a vizsla.... don't make mutts....

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Re: Cross Breeding

Postby lauralee » Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:29 am

I think he should breed his Setter to a Bloodhound, this way he can hunt fer birds & bubbas. :multi:
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