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Misskiwi OFA & PENN

Postby Doc E » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:29 pm

In another thread, I said that, "OFA is currently the gold standard", and you took exception saying that most of the orthopedists that you know think that PENN hip is.
Here is an article from the AAHA (American Animal Hospital Assn), that says, "[i]Currently the test regarded as the "gold standard" used to determine a dogs susceptibility to hip dysplasia is the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) hip joint scoring system".[/i]

Here is a link to the whole article
http://www.aaha.org/blog/NewStat/post/2 ... P-OFA.aspx

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Re: Misskiwi OFA & PENN

Postby Misskiwi67 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:22 am

And yet the study you posted states Pennhip is better.
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Re: Misskiwi OFA & PENN

Postby Doc E » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:07 am

Misskiwi67 wrote:And yet the study you posted states Pennhip is better.

Nowhere did I say that PENN wasn't better .
You disagreed with me on the "gold standard" statement.

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Re: Misskiwi OFA & PENN

Postby ryanr » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:01 am

Doc E wrote:
Misskiwi67 wrote:And yet the study you posted states Pennhip is better.

Nowhere did I say that PENN wasn't better .
You disagreed with me on the "gold standard" statement.

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Well, when I normally hear the term Gold Standard I think "The best" and not just the most widely available.
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Re: Misskiwi OFA & PENN

Postby JTracyII » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:03 pm

Doc E wrote:
Misskiwi67 wrote:And yet the study you posted states Pennhip is better.

Nowhere did I say that PENN wasn't better .
You disagreed with me on the "gold standard" statement.

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Doc, it sure seemed that you were implying that OFA was better. I think everyone who posted agreed that it was the most commonly available and used in the past thread, yet you still were disagreeing with Penn Hip now being the Gold Standard. So, how were you defining "Gold Standard?" Maybe your answer will clear things up.
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Re: Misskiwi OFA & PENN

Postby Misskiwi67 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:37 pm

It's just a difference of sources. I used recent conference proceedings to determine my response to the original thread.

Most non-vets don't have access to these materials. Amongst breeders it may be "gold standard" due to accessibility, not accuracy.

Semantics really...
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Re: Misskiwi OFA & PENN

Postby hicntry » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:57 pm

Neither one is the magical "gold standard". Both tests are no more than assessment of the condition of the hips "after the fact". The early damage has been done and there is no correcting it once it is done. It is degenerative from there for the life of the dog.
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Re: Misskiwi OFA & PENN

Postby Doc E » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:55 pm

JTracyII wrote: Doc, it sure seemed that you were implying that OFA was better. I think everyone who posted agreed that it was the most commonly available and used in the past thread, yet you still were disagreeing with Penn Hip now being the Gold Standard. So, how were you defining "Gold Standard?" Maybe your answer will clear things up.


[i]Here is what I posted, "Although PENN Hip might be more accurate, OFA is still considered the "Gold Standard" (as evidenced by the article from the American Animal Hospital Association.
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How does that imply that I think OFA is better ? ? ?

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Re: Misskiwi OFA & PENN

Postby JTracyII » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:39 pm

Doc,

I stand corrected. Which do you think is better? I assume Penn Hip given you think it 'may' be more accurate. I'll be honest I used OFA recently. However, I'm thinking about doing the Penn next time. Don't know if it's worth the extra hassle and cost as my vet does OFA but not the Penn. I would be willing to use Penn next time if it is worth it. I noticed that the OFA also checks for spondylosis, which may or may not be an added benefit over Penn. Would it be worth having OFA done over Penn to rule out spondylosis?
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Re: Misskiwi OFA & PENN

Postby Doc E » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:59 pm

I think that doing both OFA and PENN would be the best currently available.

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