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Postby drahth56 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:05 pm

Any one feeding RAW? Experiences? Tips?
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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby Calvinator » Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:49 pm

Start with chicken. Introduce new items slowly. Bone binds the stool. Organs loosen the stool. 80% muscle meat, 10% bone, 10% organ(5%should be liver). Balance diet over a 7-10 day period. Feed in such a way that the dog must use their teeth and jaws. Don't feed everything all ground up.

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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby blue04 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:25 pm

Calvin: Do you have a local source for your chicken? I presume you're not buying it all in the local super market. Do you see any value in feeding smaller amounts of commercial kibble, and supplementing with raw?
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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby Calvinator » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:18 pm

With 7 dogs, we switched back to kibble. We fed raw for some time prior. We were able to buy chicken legs quarters for as little as $0.45 per pound at a local butcher. They came in 40# boxes. They routinely had them on sale for $18-24 a box. Finding cheap raw foods became an challenge and obsession. Freezer space is essential if you plan to feed raw. Buying in bulk is your best route. It also helps to know a fur trapper. A god buddy gave me many muskrat carcasses after skinning. I also became good friends with a show rabbit breeder. I bought most of his culls.
I still occasionally give out chicken leg quarters or turkey necks to help clean teeth. Plus the dogs relish it. Although it doesn't agree with every dogs digestive system.
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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby drahth56 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:26 pm

Thanks, I've been looking into EUREKA as a main stay supplier. Also adding chicken from a nearby supplier for chicken seconds. and adding carcasses from ducks and others that I hunt. The leap seams dramatic at first but some breeders I've talked to, not hunting dogs but show dogs have have fantastic results. For up to seven years. I'm thinking of making the change.
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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby Misskiwi67 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:24 pm

Love the Nature's Variety brand of pre-packaged raw products. I see a lot of "ingredient shift" that results in poorly balanced diets over time.

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When feeding raw this is what else you need to know: A recent update from the FDA on the risks of bacterial contamination in raw diets.

http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/res ... 373757.htm
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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby Calvinator » Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:17 pm

Most of the prepackaged raw diets are ground offering no dental benefits. Secondly, the whole grinding process offers more bacterial exposure.
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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby blue04 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:55 pm

Grinding shouldn't be necessary. My dogs are good at grinding things, and would have no trouble with chicken bones :-)
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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby Misskiwi67 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:22 pm

Calvinator wrote:Most of the prepackaged raw diets are ground offering no dental benefits. Secondly, the whole grinding process offers more bacterial exposure.


Feeding a raw diet - or any diet for that matter - doesn't mean recreational bones aren't worthwhile.
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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby wrangler1 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:16 pm

I am a big fan of green tripe and use that with Dr. Tim's or Annamaet.
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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby Calvinator » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:44 pm

I never mentioned recreational bones. Now that you brought it up, use caution. Dogs have broken teeth on hard, dense bones.
A good read is Dr. Tom Lonsdale's book "Raw Meaty Bones". He also has a web site.

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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby Doc E » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:56 pm

I am a Diplomate (board certified specialist) in Clinical Nutrition -- A good friend of mine is a PhD in Canine Nutrition and NEITHER of us feel that we know enough to feed BARF.

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Re: Feeding RAW

Postby Calvinator » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:53 pm

BARF is one type of raw feeding diet.
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