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Glycocharge

Postby Scott Linden » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:22 pm

As you might know, the latest advice on glycogen replacement suggests serving it in water (no food) within 15 minutes of the end of a hunt. I'm good with that, but some times my guys simply won't drink it. I can't imagine what it tastes like, and probably can sympathize. I'm thinking of adding some low-sodium chicken stock unless you have a better idea. Thanks.
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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Dr Tim » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:38 am

Try it with really cold water in a plastic dish. Not metal.
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Re: Glycocharge

Postby wcummin » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:05 am

Dr Tim wrote:Try it with really cold water in a plastic dish. Not metal.


Dr Tim, why a plastic dish and not metal?
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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Sierra Wirehair » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:24 pm

Scott,

What types of supplements are out there and which ones do you recommend? Thanks in advance

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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Scott Linden » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:47 pm

Sierra Wirehair wrote:Scott,

What types of supplements are out there and which ones do you recommend? Thanks in advance

Mic


Well, I'm no expert at this but I'm a believer in maltodextrin (one brand: Glycocharge). You've got to use it correctly but if you follow the label you'll be fine and have dogs that are rarin' to go the next day and the next.

I also use FlexEnhance from Happy Jack for my old guy's joints. And in the field for energy I use Drs. Foster & Smith VitaCal. Actually, my dogs do!

I'll be trying some probiotics this season - report in January.

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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Sierra Wirehair » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:47 am

Actually I have just always feed my dogs within 15 min of when finishing the day's hunt. You affirmed this practice on one of yuor shows. I think I would like to add the glocogharge and will do some internet and vet investigations. Are you giving your young and middle aged dogs Flexhance?

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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Scott Linden » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:31 am

Sierra Wirehair wrote:Actually I have just always feed my dogs within 15 min of when finishing the day's hunt. You affirmed this practice on one of yuor shows. I think I would like to add the glocogharge and will do some internet and vet investigations. Are you giving your young and middle aged dogs Flexhance?

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I've learned a lot since that show - now, maltodextrin 15 mins. after hunt, food 1.5 hours later. The fat in food inhibits uptake of the glycogen, the guys at Annamaet said. Giving FlexEnhance to the old guy only.
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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Sierra Wirehair » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:42 am

Thanks Scott! That's good info. Seems like we take a young dog's willingness and ability to hunt consecutive days for granted at times. I know I may have. Do you get your products online?

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Re: Glycocharge

Postby huntnvet » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:48 pm

Would someone please post the study or a link to the study that gives support to the use of maltodextran post exercise? Thx
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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Sierra Wirehair » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:01 pm

Here's one article from a vet. Hope it helps. I'll bet Scott has some info on the subject.
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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Scott Linden » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:21 pm

I originally got the info from a Purina vet who invented the bar they marketed for a while. He was pretty adamant. Here is one reference:

http://www.purinavets.eu/PDFs/ResearchR ... issue1.pdf
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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Dr Tim » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:37 pm

Walter, when a dog is tired they seem to detect the metal odor/taste from the bowl. Plastic doesn't do that. Didn't believe it either until I saw it occur during the Iditarod and mushers in the know shared it with me. Have tried it with my own dogs and it does make a difference.
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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Scott Linden » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:56 pm

Fascinating, Dr. Tim. Thanks. Not a problem so far with my metal bowls, in Oregon, Montana, South Dakota ... maybe unique to Alaska! :)
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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Doc E » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:19 pm

The most economical place to get maltodextrin is at a Home Brew shop.



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Re: Glycocharge

Postby Doc E » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:22 pm

huntnvet wrote:Would someone please post the study or a link to the study that gives support to the use of maltodextran post exercise? Thx


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