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Starting to get worried....limping

Postby Graves14 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:35 pm

About two weeks ago I noticed my 9 mo old DD was limping around the house. I run him in the woods 1-2 hours a day just letting him explore. Near the end of the walk I noticed a slight limp in his left front leg so I checked his paw thinking it might be a pad. It wasn't. I popped him in the truck and headed home. The limp came and went for the next few days even though I stopped taking him to the woods. At this point he was only swimming or walking on lead.

After 3 days I took him to the vet where she examined him and reached the same conclusion I had, soft tissue strain in his shoulder. He flinches when you straighten his leg and flex at his shoulder. She prescribed Rimydol twice a day and said to rest him as much as possible. 10 days later and he still limps after even a 20-30min leashed walk.

I don't know what else to do and he is clearly anxcious and aggitated in the house because he's not getting enough exercise.

Anyone have a similar experience? Any ideas?

We're going to another vet this week to get a second opinion. 2 months out from his first season and I don't want him to miss it!!

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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby Doc E » Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:56 pm

Might be time for xrays :
OCD ?
Pano ?

Blood work :
Tick borne disease ?

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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby Graves14 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:48 pm

Tickborn Illness is unlikely as his temperament hasn't changed at all. If anything he has more energy.

Also he shows no sign of pain so the vet agreed a lesion was unlikely.
I'm starting to think its a torn tendon but there should be noticeable inflammation no?
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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby blue04 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:04 pm

Is the limping consistently on the same leg? Is it all the time, or does it come and go?
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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby Graves14 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:57 am

Always the same leg, always sore at the shoulder. The limping is triggered by exercise but he ignores the limp. If I toss a dummy he charges after it like nothing's wrong.
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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby huntnvet » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:15 pm

Did the 1st vet recommend radiographs? Tick borne ELISA test?

Don't wait any longer, start with 4 view RADs: 2 of the shoulder and 2 of the stifle with tibia/fibula. Much easier to fix things when diagnosed early.
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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby Georgia Boy » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:29 pm

Sounds very much like OCD, usually shows up around that age and more common in males.
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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby Graves14 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:53 pm

So I'm over a month into this. 3 vets, 3 X-rays all showed no sign of OCD or any other osteotic malformation. This was also confirmed by an orthopedist. All 3 vets agree its a biceps tendon injury and said to keep his exercise lite and it will heal in time.

He is also on a 3 week cycle of Doxy in case it's a tickborn illness.

He is still limping heavily after exercise and in extention of his left front shoulder.

I'm kind of at an impass where im not sure what else I can do.
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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby Doc E » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:51 pm

Graves14 wrote:I'm kind of at an impass where im not sure what else I can do.


See a Vet who uses Cold Laser. It increases the rate of healing 25% to 40%
You can find one at:
http://www.vomtech.com
or
http://www.erchonia.com/



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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby Graves14 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:43 pm

Im headed to see an orthopedist on friday. hoping he can tell me definitively if it is or is not ocd or another bone/cartilage deformation.

If not we're probably looking at using tranquilizers to keep the pup relatively sedate for a few weeks while the tendons heal.
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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby hicntry » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:14 pm

Three vets and an orthopedist agree. Take a hint.... do what they told you and relax. Keep the exersice light... or quit exercising since it seems to be promoting the problem. Common sense goes a long way. Probably got a broken toe anyway. Takes a while to heal.
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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby Graves14 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:34 am

hicntry wrote:Three vets and an orthopedist agree. Take a hint.... do what they told you and relax. Keep the exersice light... or quit exercising since it seems to be promoting the problem. Common sense goes a long way. Probably got a broken toe anyway. Takes a while to heal.



It's definitely a shoulder injury as it can be manipulated in hyper flexion or extention and cause a pain response.

This is the first orthopedist he'll be seeing in person (the other was consulted by my vet in reading the first X-rays)

I think we'll end up having to use sedatives to keep him inactive for a few weeks. Not something I want to do but it's either that or keeping him kenneled all day.
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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby ryanr » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:12 pm

Graves14 wrote:So I'm over a month into this. 3 vets, 3 X-rays all showed no sign of OCD or any other osteotic malformation. This was also confirmed by an orthopedist. All 3 vets agree its a biceps tendon injury and said to keep his exercise lite and it will heal in time.

He is also on a 3 week cycle of Doxy in case it's a tickborn illness.

He is still limping heavily after exercise and in extention of his left front shoulder.

I'm kind of at an impass where im not sure what else I can do.


Really? Not to be a jerk but here's a suggestion: LISTEN to what all 3 vets have been telling you and maybe STOP exercising the dog for a while. Light exercise means light exercise, as in an easy walk every day or even every other day maybe for several weeks to am onth and then slowly build back up as he heals and responds. They're right, it's going to take time and being impatient expecting quicker results is only going to exascerbate the problem. Don't worry about when opening day is.
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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby Graves14 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:55 am

If I could get him to calm down for a few weeks and lay off his shoulder I would but outside of kenneling him 18 hours a day I don't know how to do that. Without lots of exercise he runs and jumps In the house which is just as damaging.

I've done literally everything the vets have asked me to and he hasn't improved which is why we're going to another doc. To get better X-rays and a specialists opinion. Hopefully we will know EXACTLY what the injury is so we can proceed with a proper treatment plan.

I think it's going to require some sort of medically induced sedation to really give his shoulder the rest and time it needs to heal. We'll find out
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Re: Starting to get worried....limping

Postby ryanr » Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:21 am

Ok, good luck. I can tell you I dealt with the same kind of injury when my labrador was young. It happened after he chased a snowshoe hare off a huge boulder drop-off and thankfully had a huge snowdrift to cushion his landing or it would have been worse. When I ran to the edge I expected to see him piled up below, dead or severely injured. Instead he was sort of cemented into the snowdrift and after I helped him out I could immediately see he was limping. It was a shoulder injury and it took quite a while (several months) for it to heal. Over the years he even had small reoccurrences. I had to limit him to just gentle walks and no jumping in and out of my truck. I do remember he had days where he was pretty rammy and a general PIA. Just know that it will definitely take months, probably all or most of hunting season and after hard exercise or hunting he will limp a bit. Just manage it. What I think you'll notice though is the severity and duration will begin to diminish as it heals. Swimming (without the rocket water entries) seemed to be decent rehab exercise for him, just as it often is for human athletes.
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